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Document 1:20-cr-00338-PAE Document 161 Filed 02/24/22 Page 70 of 117

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Case 1:20-cr-00338-PAE Document 161 Filed 02/24/22 Page 70 of 117 A-5913 11 CAC3PARC 1 under any definition. 2 It's also under Chappee in the First Circuit, and I 3 would bet it is also effective assistance. Or it's not 4 ineffective assistance, even though one can say that's back 5 alley -- I can't remember the words in Chappee, but they are 6 not very flattering. Even though you can say those things, 7 it's got to be effective assistance because you're not going to 8 let people get away with that game. There is a perfect 9 example. 10 You can have, I've done this as a grid, and you can 11 have, if you put waiver and ineffective assistance, you can 12 fill out most of the four boxes. There is a case in the Second 13 Circuit that I stumbled across which is Flores. It is old 14 enough there is a Judge Van Graafeiland dissent. Flores is one 15 where there is a waiver. The trial lawyer I think says after 16 trial, look, I've come across this 3500 material, this Rosario 17 material, but it wouldn't have helped me very much. And he 18 says it at a time when it is per se reversible not to have 19 turned over that 3500 material. There is no harmless error 20 standard, that's how crazy New York law was. And the First 21 Department in New York Court of Appeals says waiver. You say 22 right on the record you're not pressing the issue. The Second 23 Circuit said ineffective assistance, right. How can a lawyer 24 possibly having been handed a piece of paper which is a new 25 trial card, how can you not play it. So there is a situation SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00009489