UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v PAUL M. DAUERDAS, ET AL., February 15, 2012 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 145 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 147 1 MR. GAIR: Your Honor, I move the admission of PMD 1 were living. 2 Exhibit 2. 2 A. I sometimes stay in Bronxville as well. 3 THE COURT: Any objection? 3 Q. And my question to you was on the day of voir dire when you 4 MR. OKULA: No, your Honor. 4 woke up -- 5 THE COURT: PMD Exhibit 2 is received in evidence. 5 A. Oh, but that wasn't your question. The day of voir dire, 6 (Exhibit PMD 2 received in evidence) 6 then that was in the Barker Avenue address, correct. 7 Q. Let me ask you to direct your attention to page 203 of 7 Q. Okay. How about on February 28th, the day before voir 8 transcript. And I just want you to focus on lines 4 through 9. 8 dire. Where did you live on that day? 9 Judge Pauley asked you, I think Ms. Conrad, Juror No. 3, that I 9 A. The same. 10 was about to begin with you when we suspended yesterday. So 10 Q. The same what? 11 first, would you tell us what neighborhood you reside in? And 11 A. Address. 12 you answered Bronxville in Westchester. Is that correct? 12 Q. You lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx? 13 A. No, you're reading it in correctly. It says Bronx Village. 13 A. Yes, sir. 14 Q. Okay, was your answer at the time Bronxville but possibly 14 Q. And we know you lived there on March 1 because that's the 15 the court reporter got it down wrong? 15 first day of voir dire, right? 16 A. Absolutely. 16 A. I'm not sure. I think March 1 was a Monday or a Tuesday, 17 Q. So in answer to the question where you resided, you said 17 I'm not specifically sure. 18 you resided in Bronxville, that's in Westchester County, 18 Q. In fact, ma'am, you had lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx 19 correct? 19 for the past two years at least, correct? 20 A. Yes. 20 A. Oh, sure. 21 Q. And you don't reside in Bronxville in Westchester County, 21 Q. Oh, sure. 22 isn't that correct? 22 A. And this has everything to do with why Mr. Daugerdas, your 23 A. No. 23 client, is guilty or not? 24 Q. No, it's not correct? 24 Q. And when the Judge said where do you reside, you made a 25 A. I have two addresses. 25 deliberate decision to tell the judge that you resided in C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 146 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 148 1 Q. Let me ask you this: When you woke up on the morning of 1 Bronxville as opposed to on Barker Avenue in the Bronx, 2 March 1 of 2011 and you got out of bed and you walked out the 2 correct? 3 front door, were you on Barker Avenue in the Bronx? 3 A. That -- both are correct. 4 A. That's confidential. 4 Q. So you were not trying to mislead this Court when you said 5 Q. Or were you in Bronxville in Westchester? 5 I live in -- I live in Bronxville in Westchester County? 6 A. Same answer. 6 A. And myself and the other eleven jurors did not mislead this 7 THE COURT: It's not confidential. I'm directing you 7 Court when we rendered our fair and just and unbiased verdict. 8 to answer the question. 8 MR. GAIR: Move to strike as non-responsive, your 9 A. Barker. 9 Honor. 10 Q. Because that's where you live. 10 THE COURT: Application granted. 11 A. And what does this have to do with convicting your client? 11 Q. Okay, Ms. Conrad, the fact is -- let me just get a little 12 Q. Ma'am -- 12 background. Do you live with your husband? 13 A. I -- 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Do you -- the truth of the matter is that you lived on 14 Q. Your husband is a career criminal, right? 15 March 1 and 2nd and every other day in March of 2011, you lived 15 A. So are most attorneys. 16 at 2385 Barker Avenue, apartment 3H in the Bronx, isn't that 16 Q. And, Ms. Conrad, your father is an immigration judge for 17 correct? 17 the United States Department of Justice? 18 A. No. 18 A. DOJ. 19 Q. What days did you not live there? 19 Q. Yeah. Are you trying to tell me that sometimes you and 20 A. Probably the beginning of March. 20 your husband, the convicted felon, are living with your father? 21 Q. At the beginning of March you did not live in, you did not 21 A. Love has no bounds. 22 live in the Bronx? 22 Q. So do sometimes you and your husband live in the Bronx? 23 A. That's my address and I also have a Westchester address, 23 A. We don't sleep in the same bedroom as my parents, sir. 24 sir. 24 Q. Do you sometimes sleep in the Bronx with your husband, same 25 Q. I didn't ask what your addresses were. I asked where you 25 house? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS (37) Page 145 - Page 148
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v PAUL M. DAUERDAS, ET AL., February 15, 2012 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 145 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 147 1 MR. GAIR: Your Honor, I move the admission of PMD 1 were living. 2 Exhibit 2. 2 A. I sometimes stay in Bronxville as well. 3 THE COURT: Any objection? 3 Q. And my question to you was on the day of voir dire when you 4 MR. OKULA: No, your Honor. 4 woke up -- 5 THE COURT: PMD Exhibit 2 is received in evidence. 5 A. Oh, but that wasn't your question. The day of voir dire, 6 (Exhibit PMD 2 received in evidence) 6 then that was in the Barker Avenue address, correct. 7 Q. Let me ask you to direct your attention to page 203 of 7 Q. Okay. How about on February 28th, the day before voir 8 transcript. And I just want you to focus on lines 4 through 9. 8 dire. Where did you live on that day? 9 Judge Pauley asked you, I think Ms. Conrad, Juror No. 3, that I 9 A. The same. 10 was about to begin with you when we suspended yesterday. So 10 Q. The same what? 11 first, would you tell us what neighborhood you reside in? And 11 A. Address. 12 you answered Bronxville in Westchester. Is that correct? 12 Q. You lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx? 13 A. No, you're reading it in correctly. It says Bronx Village. 13 A. Yes, sir. 14 Q. Okay, was your answer at the time Bronxville but possibly 14 Q. And we know you lived there on March 1 because that's the 15 the court reporter got it down wrong? 15 first day of voir dire, right? 16 A. Absolutely. 16 A. I'm not sure. I think March 1 was a Monday or a Tuesday, 17 Q. So in answer to the question where you resided, you said 17 I'm not specifically sure. 18 you resided in Bronxville, that's in Westchester County, 18 Q. In fact, ma'am, you had lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx 19 correct? 19 for the past two years at least, correct? 20 A. Yes. 20 A. Oh, sure. 21 Q. And you don't reside in Bronxville in Westchester County, 21 Q. Oh, sure. 22 isn't that correct? 22 A. And this has everything to do with why Mr. Daugerdas, your 23 A. No. 23 client, is guilty or not? 24 Q. No, it's not correct? 24 Q. And when the Judge said where do you reside, you made a 25 A. I have two addresses. 25 deliberate decision to tell the judge that you resided in C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 146 C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 148 1 Q. Let me ask you this: When you woke up on the morning of 1 Bronxville as opposed to on Barker Avenue in the Bronx, 2 March 1 of 2011 and you got out of bed and you walked out the 2 correct? 3 front door, were you on Barker Avenue in the Bronx? 3 A. That -- both are correct. 4 A. That's confidential. 4 Q. So you were not trying to mislead this Court when you said 5 Q. Or were you in Bronxville in Westchester? 5 I live in -- I live in Bronxville in Westchester County? 6 A. Same answer. 6 A. And myself and the other eleven jurors did not mislead this 7 THE COURT: It's not confidential. I'm directing you 7 Court when we rendered our fair and just and unbiased verdict. 8 to answer the question. 8 MR. GAIR: Move to strike as non-responsive, your 9 A. Barker. 9 Honor. 10 Q. Because that's where you live. 10 THE COURT: Application granted. 11 A. And what does this have to do with convicting your client? 11 Q. Okay, Ms. Conrad, the fact is -- let me just get a little 12 Q. Ma'am -- 12 background. Do you live with your husband? 13 A. I -- 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Do you -- the truth of the matter is that you lived on 14 Q. Your husband is a career criminal, right? 15 March 1 and 2nd and every other day in March of 2011, you lived 15 A. So are most attorneys. 16 at 2385 Barker Avenue, apartment 3H in the Bronx, isn't that 16 Q. And, Ms. Conrad, your father is an immigration judge for 17 correct? 17 the United States Department of Justice? 18 A. No. 18 A. DOJ. 19 Q. What days did you not live there? 19 Q. Yeah. Are you trying to tell me that sometimes you and 20 A. Probably the beginning of March. 20 your husband, the convicted felon, are living with your father? 21 Q. At the beginning of March you did not live in, you did not 21 A. Love has no bounds. 22 live in the Bronx? 22 Q. So do sometimes you and your husband live in the Bronx? 23 A. That's my address and I also have a Westchester address, 23 A. We don't sleep in the same bedroom as my parents, sir. 24 sir. 24 Q. Do you sometimes sleep in the Bronx with your husband, same 25 Q. I didn't ask what your addresses were. I asked where you 25 house? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS (37) Page 145 - Page 148
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