Document 293-3

Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 1 of 34 Exhibit C DOJ-OGR-00004663 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 2 of 34 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff, vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN; SARAH KELLEN, ADRIANA ROSS, a/k/a Adriana Mucinska, and NADIA MARCINKOVA, Defendants. TESTIMONY OF SPECIAL AGENT Federal Grand Jury 07-1 03 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, March 18, 2008 APPEARANCES: A. MARIE VILLAFANA, Assistant United States Attorney OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 CONFIDENTIAL MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000303 3501.125-020 Page 1 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004664 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 3 of 34 1 2 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 18, 6 2008. 7 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 457-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000304 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 2 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004665 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 4 of 34 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Good afternoon, Special Agent Would you just remind the grand jury of your name and for whom you work? A I am . My official name is and I work for the FBI here in West Palm Beach. Q All right. And you are still one of the case agents on Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Have additional subpoenas been issued on behalf of this grand jury regarding Leap Year? A Yes, they have. Q And have documents been received in response to those subpoenas? A Yes, they have. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 457-8204 CONFIDENTIAL MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000305 3501.125-020 Page 3 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004666 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 5 of 34 4 1 Q What subpoenas were issued and what items were received? 2 A The items that are received are in this box for your review at a later time, but starting with the first subpoena that we had received back for would be from American Express. The subpoena was issued and we received credit card account information. 3 Q Okay. 4 A Do you want me just to -- 5 Q You can just go through them. 6 A A subpoena was issued to J. Epstein Virgin Island Foundation, Inc., J. Epstein and Company, Epstein Interests, Financial Trust Company, Inc., and we received documents on all three of those except for -- all four of those except for Jeffrey Epstein and Company -- J. Epstein and Company, which we received a letter of no response. 7 The next subpoena was issued to the Palm Beach County School Board and we received transcript request forms. The next grand jury subpoena was issued to , Airport Executive, Town Car Services. We received a verbal that there were no records from Mr. 8 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000306 3501.125-020 Page 4 of 65 CONFIDENTIAL DOJ-OGR-00004667 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 6 of 34 1 2 We issued a grand jury subpoena to the custodian of records for , which 3 4 we received ticketing records for. 5 6 We issued a grand jury subpoena or you issued a grand jury subpoena for the custodian of 7 records at the and we received ticketing records. 8 9 We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for the and received a letter of no 10 11 records response. 12 13 We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for . Again, received a response letter 14 15 of no records. 16 17 We issued another subpoena for the custodian of records from and that we did receive 18 19 some ticketing records. 20 21 We issued a subpoena to Pear Sterns and Company, Inc., and we received personnel files and 22 account information. We issued a grand jury 23 subpoena for Wolf Camera and we received 24 transaction records. 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000307 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 5 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004668 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 7 of 34 6 1 We have issued a grand jury subpoena to 2 Amazon.com and received order records. We issued 3 a grand jury subpoena to Federal Express and 4 received shipping records, and all that is 5 contained in this box. 6 Q All right. 7 MS. VILLAFANA: And at the end of our 8 preservation, you will be welcome to look 9 through any of those records and we also will 10 bring them to the next session. 11 A GRAND JUROR: I have a question. 12 MS. VILLAFANA: Yes. 13 A GRAND JUROR: We subpoenaed 14 information from theaters. I heard you say 15 ticketing information or records from a few 16 of them. 17 Did we subpoena that information to 18 establish location of the defendant or I 19 guess he's not a defendant yet? 20 THE WITNESS: Just as corroborating 21 evidence of testimony provided by the girls. 22 Their statements provided to us. 23 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 24 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 25 Q Okay. Special Agent [REDACTED] each OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-3204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000308 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 6 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004669 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 8 of 34 1 member of the grand jury has before them a copy of 2 a chart. Do you also have a copy of this chart 3 entitled Revised Indictment Summary Chart 4 (by victim)? 5 A Yes. 6 Q And then you also provided to everyone a 7 list of Jane Does with photographs? 8 A Yes, I did. 9 Q Okay. Can you just explain to the grand 10 jury how -- which Jane Does we are going to be 11 talking about today? 12 A We are going to talk about [REDACTED] and what you have 13 here is a [REDACTED]. We 14 will be going through the [REDACTED]. 15 [REDACTED] 16 [REDACTED] 17 18 columns you'll see in the indictment we have 19 before you is going to have the new Jane Doe 20 numbers and the column to the right of that shows 21 you what their Jane Doe number used to be. 22 So [REDACTED], when we spoke 23 about those two before, and we will go through 24 that a little bit later, we referred to those as 25 [REDACTED]. From here on out, we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000309 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 7 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004670 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 9 of 34 8 1 will refer to them as 2 A GRAND JUROR: I have a question about 3 and Amy pointed this 4 out. The date of birth is . The 5 range of activity dates is 1988 to 2003? 6 THE WITNESS: That's a typo. That 7 should be 1998. 8 MS. VILLAFANA: Thank you for catching 9 that. 10 A GRAND JUROR: I was about ready to 11 have a problem here. I was having a real 12 problem. Yeah. 13 MS. VILLAFANA: Okay. Thank you. 14 A GRAND JUROR: I was about to take the 15 law into my own hands. 16 THE WITNESS: Let there be noted on the 17 summary chart, there is a typo correction for 18 . The range of activity 19 for her is 1998 to 2003. 20 This chart is a chart that we put 21 together because I have testified in the past 22 as well as you may have heard other testimony 23 regarding some of the Jane Does, and we are 24 going to be talking about them today and in a 25 later session. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, L.L.C (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000310 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 8 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004671 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 10 of 34 9 1 We wart -- we provided this to you sort 2 of as an aid so that you can go back and 3 access the grand jury transcripts and go to 4 the date that the testimony was provided. 5 If you look at the last column where it 6 says, Grand Jury Transcript Pages, on this 7 form it will tell you the date of the grand 8 jury, who provided that testimony, and the 9 page number where you can find testimony 10 related to those specific Overt Acts and 11 substantive counts. 12 So the two columns next to that -- let's 13 just take and run through 14 that real quick. we 15 have not testified about before. So that is 16 her number and will always remain her number. 17 her date of birth is . 18 The range of activity and that reflects the 19 range of activity that we have her connected 20 to Mr. Epstein and his assistants. 21 The next two columns are the Overt Acts 22 and the associated substantive counts. The 23 Overt Acts support those substantive counts 24 and again the last column you would at that 25 point go to my testimony on May 8th, 2007, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000311 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 9 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004672 --- PAGE BREAK --- could ask you to take a look at that, and in the proposed indictment if you could turn to Page 32. Special Agent , I'm going to ask you about Overt Acts 191 through 225. Can you tell the grand jury what the basis is for the allegations set forth in 191 through 225? A We received through the issuance of a grand jury subpoena the flight manifest from Mr. Epstein's pilot and that is our evidence to show the travel that Mr. Epstein did, which is displayed in Overt Acts 191 through 225. Q And the chart that is entitled Merged Flight Manifests, what does that include? A This chart will show the grand jury that in January 2004 through -- basically, Mr. Epstein's travel in '04 and '05 on his two personal aircrafts, which would be the Boeing 727 and the Gulfstream. If you look at this chart, the first column is the date of departure, the date that he left, and you'll see airport codes in the next column that tells you the airport that he left and what time he left would be the next time, the departure time. It will tell you what airport he was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000316 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 14 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004677 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 16 of 34 arriving in and what time he arrived at that airport, and the last would be the actual aircraft itself, which aircraft he was traveling on, and just to remind the grand jury, Hyperion is the Gulfstream and JEGE is the Boeing 727. Q And who created this chart, the Merged Flight Manifests Chart? A The FBI. Q And where did they gather this information from? A We subpoenaed or the grand jury issued a subpoena to the pilot and pilots of Mr. Epstein and through counsel the pilots gave us a copy of the flight manifest for those two years and I have here a set of the flight manifests that were provided to us by the grand jury subpoena and have marked each of the Overt Acts from 191 to 225. So that if any time the grand jury would like to come and look at the actual manifest the pilots gave us, you'll be able to see the data that this form was taken from. Q Okay. Thank you. MS. VILLAFANA: Before I go on, does anyone have any questions about those overt Acts and where this information came from? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000317 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 15 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004678 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 17 of 34 16 1 Yes, sir. 2 A GRAND JUROR: Is there something that ties in these travel itineraries to the actual fact that there was a meeting or something planned? I mean, where does that tie together? Traveling is not against the law. 3 XS. VILLAFANA: Right. The way that we had the indictment organized before was an attempt to do this in chronological order, which seems to be more confusing rather than less confusing. 4 So when you look at the -- when you hear the testimony from Special Agent and when you look at the Overt Acts related to the victims and when he went to see them, you'll see that the dates of travel relate to the dates of his meeting with the victims. Does that make sense? 5 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 6 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 7 Q Is there anything else, Special Agent that I should add to that? 8 A No. It will become clear once we testify about the travel count. 9 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000318 10 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 16 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004679 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 18 of 34 17 A GRAND JUROR: Can I just ask which airport is ISM? THE WITNESS: You know, I can in the next session, I would be happy to bring the airport codes. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. THE WITNESS: Obviously, we focused in on his times when he traveled into the Palm Beach County area and that would be PBIA or PBI, but I can certainly provide all the airport codes at our next session. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q All right. Now throughout the Overt Acts portion where there are discussions of various Jane Does, there will be mentioned a telephone call. So, for example, if you look at Page Ten, Paragraph 17, it says on or about April 23rd, 2004, [REDACTED] placed a telephone call to a telephone used by [REDACTED]. Do you see that? A Yes. Q And Special Agent [REDACTED] what is the evidence that we have related to the telephone calls that are mentioned in the Overt Acts? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000319 3501.125-020 Page 17 of 65 CONFIDENTIAL DOJ-OGR-00004680 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 19 of 34 18 1 A We have issued administrative subpoenas 2 to telecommunication companies for cell phone 3 records for Mr. Epstein's assistants as well as 4 many of the Jane Does. 5 These specific Overt Acts are reflected 6 in those telephone records and we have also 7 prepared for the grand jury -- I brought with me 8 today, and I will bring with me next time, all of 9 the telephone records for -- that we have received 10 via administrative subpoenas. 11 12 the Overt Acts and what we have done is we have 13 taken those cell phone records and we have marked 14 for the grand jury all the Overt Acts that are 15 listed in the indictment. 16 You'll note when you go to that page, 17 there will be a little mark by the telephone call 18 that we are specifically talking about in the 19 Overt Acts. 20 Q And can you just remind the grand jury 21 what information will be on those records? 22 A It will be telephonic contact between 23 telephonic contact between his 24 assistants and the Jane Does. 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000320 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 18 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004681 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 20 of 34 1 Q Okay. So let's talk about . 2 3 Who is she? 4 5 6 7 Q And how -- has she been interviewed? 8 A Yes. 9 Q During -- how old was she during the 10 time frame that was involved 11 with Mr. Epstein? 12 A She was 14 at the time that she first 13 met Mr. Epstein. 14 Q And she was involved with him until she 15 was 17? 16 A We have in or about the beginning of 17 2001, which would make her 14 up until 2004. 18 Q And how did she come to meet Mr. 19 Epstein? 20 A brought to Mr. Epstein's residence for the 21 first time. Mr. Epstein was introduced to by 22 23 by 24 There was a massage that took place with 25 the two of them and then OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000324 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 22 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004682 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE - Document 293-3 - Filed 05/25/21 - Page 21 of 34 23 1 engaged in sexual activity that I mentioned earlier where informed as that 2 she sat on the couch and observed what she 3 believed the two of them to engage in sexual 4 intercourse. 5 Q And at the time, was 6 17 and was 14? 7 A Yes. 8 Q All right. 9 A And I'm not sure if that was actually 10 the first or second visit that she went. So it 11 was either the first visit or the second that the 12 sexual activity that I described took place. 13 They may have gone there the first time 14 and just performed a massage for Mr. Epstein, but 15 on the second occasion the sexual activity that I 16 described took place. stated that, you know, the three years that we discussed from 2001 17 to 2004, she provided Mr. Epstein with over, in 18 that three-year period, over 100 massages and all 19 but three of the massages were sexually in nature. 20 Q How much was she paid for performing 21 sexual massages for Epstein? 22 A She was paid between 200 and $400. 23 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 CONFIDENTIAL MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000325 3501.125-020 Page 23 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004683 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 22 of 34 24 1 Originally, she was paid $300 when she starting 2 performing massages for Mr. Epstein. On at least 3 two occasions, Mr. Epstein offered her $100 more 4 if she would take off her underwear, which she 5 did, and on those two occasions she was paid 6 $400. When she expressed to 7 Mr. Epstein that she did not want him touching her 8 vagina, informed us that he 9 dropped the amount to $200. 10 She would also receive $100 for bringing 11 any girls. 12 Q All right. Now you said that on all but 13 three occasions with , the 14 massages were sexual. Did Jeffrey Epstein 15 masturbate during those massages? 16 A Yes, he did. 17 Q Did he instruct to 18 do anything while he was masturbating? 19 A Yes. He asked her to rub and pinch his 20 nipples. 21 Q And these started when she was still 14? 22 A Yes. 23 Q What was the involvement of with ? 24 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000326 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 24 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004684 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 23 of 34 25 1 A would schedule and sometimes would be out of town and be in 2 New York and scheduled her to come and work, but primary role was to schedule or I guess she was the one that would schedule 3 to come and perform the massages. 4 Q Did ever actually lead upstairs up to the bedroom? 5 A Yes. After took , started going by herself. The first time that arrived at Mr. Epstein's by herself, took from the kitchen and took her upstairs for the massage that was to be performed for Mr. Epstein. 6 Q Now you mentioned the sexual activity that observed between and Mr. Epstein. Was there ever any other females involved in the sexual activity? 7 A Yes. Mr. Epstein introduced an unidentified female who performed oral sex on while Mr. Epstein had sexual intercourse with the unidentified female. 8 Q Now you mentioned that at some point, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000327 3501.125-020 Page 25 of 65 CONFIDENTIAL DOJ-OGR-00004685 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 24 of 34 26 1 Mr. Epstein asked to start bringing girls; is that correct? 2 3 A Yes. 4 Q And did he describe what exactly he wants, the type of person that he wanted her to 5 bring? Did she report that he asked her if she 6 had any younger friends that would be interested 7 in performing massages? 8 9 A Yes. He asked her -- can I just have a 10 moment? 11 Q Of course, yes. 12 A I'm sorry. 13 Mr. Epstein asked her if she had any friends that 14 would be interested in performing these massages 15 and then he also inquired if she had any younger 16 friends that would -- that she could bring to him 17 and then he offered to pay her $100 for each 18 person that she brought. 19 Q In addition to the sexual activity with 20 Mr. Epstein, did ever involve in any specific activity? 21 22 A Yes. contacted by telephone and asked her to come to 23 24 Mr. Epstein's residence that Mr. Epstein wanted to take pictures of 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 CONFIDENTIAL MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000328 3501.125-020 Page 26 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004686 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 25 of 34 27 1 2 take naked photographs of at 3 Mr. Epstein's residence in and around the house 4 and pool area at the request of Mr. Epstein. 5 Q And approximately how old or how old 6 does believe she was at the time? 7 8 A informed us that she 9 was 16 years old when took the 10 photographs of her naked. 11 Q What did say about 12 whether Jeffrey Epstein knew her true age? 13 A was informed by 14 to say if asked her age that she 15 was -- she should respond that she was 17. When 16 they went -- and went to Mr. Epstein's residence 17 and were upstairs performing massages, Mr. Epstein 18 asked her age. 19 She responded four --. And then he 20 said, so you're 14? And Mr. Epstein informed 21 that they would just keep that 22 between them. 23 Q So in other words, he knew that she was 24 14 when she started seeing him? 25 A Yes. She did not remember to say 17 and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 CONFIDENTIAL MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000329 3501.125-020 Page 27 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004687 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-RAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 26 of 34 28 1 Just naturally came out four --. And then he 2 finished that statement for her, so you're it? 3 And then stated that they would keep that between 4 them. 5 Q Now is the -- can you summarize -- does 6 your testimony cover the evidence supporting the 7 allegations in Overt Acts One through 18? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q And if I could ask you to refer to Court 10 Two, which appears on Page 38. Is the evidence 11 that you have just summarized the basis for the 12 allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and 13 procured to engage in 14 commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? 15 A Yes. 16 Q So is there anything else that you 17 wanted to mention with respect to either 18 19 A The only other thing I didn't bring up 20 was the gifts that Mr. Epstein provided to 21 and Mr. Epstein would provide her 22 with lingerie. 23 He gave her tickets to a concert, a 24 local concert. He would also send her via FedEx 25 packages to her residence, and in one of those OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, F.L.C. (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000330 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 28 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004688 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 27 of 34 1 packages informed us that 2 there was a Massage for Dummies book that she 3 received by FedEx from Mr. Epstein. 4 And the grand jury should know that we 5 have received records from FedEx which corroborate 6 Mr. Epstein's address and packages going to 7 's residence. 8 Q And those records relate to Mr. 9 Epstein's personal Federal Express account? 10 A Yes. 11 A GRAND JUROR: do 12 we know how old she was when Mr. Epstein 13 asked her to bring younger friends? Was she 14 already in his eyes up there and he wanted 15 them younger? 16 THE WITNESS: When was 16, about midway through her 16th year, 17 at that point she did 18 not provide Mr. Epstein with anymore 19 massages. 20 So I know she went away for a time 21 period and when she came back, you know, she 22 did not want to do massages 23 anymore. So at that point, she may have 24 brought her friends as well as prior to that. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000331 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 29 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004689 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/26/21 Page 29 of 34 31 1 marked, please call, and it was signed by one of 2 Mr. Epstein's employees. So again the date that 3 the contact here is March 1!, 2003. 4 Q And was still under 5 the age of 18 at that time? 6 A Yes, she was. 7 Q Okay. Now if we could turn to and who is she? 8 9 10 11 12 Q Has she been interviewed? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And during what period of time did have contact with Jeffrey 15 16 Epstein? 17 A Beginning in or around 2003 to up 2005. 18 Q And how old was she during that time 19 frame? 20 A She was 15 when she first met Mr. 21 Epstein. 22 Q And how did she meet him? 23 A brought 24 to Mr. Epstein's house. They 25 traveled by taxi there. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000333 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 31 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004691 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 28 of 34 30 BY MS. VILAPANA: Q Do you know exactly when she started bringing other girls? A I don't know that. I want to say that it was before or after. We just know that she was asked by Mr. Epstein to bring other females and he would pay $100. The only other thing we haven't talked about is we have message pads that were recovered in the execution of the state search warrant on Mr. Epstein's residence, and I think the grand jury has seen copies of some of those message pads. We do have a message pad for that gives you an example of -- and I can pull that out and read that to the grand jury, if you would like? Q Sure. A This particular message pad is basically -- it's a carbon copy message that again was recovered during the execution of the state search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence and this shows that this was dated on March 11, 2003. It's from with her phone number and it's marked that she telephoned and it's OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000332 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 30 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004690 --- PAGE BREAK --- Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 293-3 Filed 05/25/21 Page 32 of 34 55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 MM20-GJ TESTIMONY-000356 CONFIDENTIAL 3501.125-020 Page 54 of 65 DOJ-OGR-00004694