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Case 1:20-cr-00338-PAE Document 161 Filed 02/24/22 Page 88 of 130 A-5774 317 C2GFDAU3 Brune - recross 1 numbers? 2 A. The thing has something that said fraud alert and it 3 indicates that there were two Social Security numbers, and so, 4 of course I'm just testifying about what I would have thought, 5 but I thought that would be consistent with what I thought I 6 knew, that there were two people floating around with the same 7 name. 8 MR. SCHECTMAN: Thank you. 9 THE COURT: Anything further, Ms. Davis? 10 MS. DAVIS: No, your Honor. 11 THE COURT: Ms. Brune, I have a question for you. 12 Would your firm have disclosed the information in your firm's 13 July 21 letter and the investigation into Juror No. 1 if the 14 Court had not inquired or the government failed to raise the 15 waiver issue? 16 THE WITNESS: I don't think we would have, your Honor. 17 And as I think about it, we have an ethical obligation to be 18 accurate and honest, and it's something that we take very 19 seriously. But I don't think that we're obliged to identify 20 arguments that the government might make in our opening brief. 21 I mean, when we go through the case law, of course, we have to 22 say the authority and then if we think there's contrary 23 authority out there we have to state that, but as I said to the 24 Court on the call, I kind of assumed it was coming and I was 25 going to respond accurately. So I didn't spend a lot of time SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00009378 --- PAGE BREAK --- C2GFDAU3 Brune - recross 317 1 numbers? 2 A. The thing has something that said fraud alert and it 3 indicates that there were two Social Security numbers, and so, 4 of course I'm just testifying about what I would have thought, 5 but I thought that would be consistent with what I thought I 6 knew, that there were two people floating around with the same 7 name. 8 MR. SCHECTMAN: Thank you. 9 THE COURT: Anything further, Ms. Davis? 10 MS. DAVIS: No, your Honor. 11 THE COURT: Ms. Brune, I have a question for you. 12 Would your firm have disclosed the information in your firm's 13 July 21 letter and the investigation into Juror No. 1 if the 14 Court had not inquired or the government failed to raise the 15 waiver issue? 16 THE WITNESS: I don't think we would have, your Honor. 17 And as I think about it, we have an ethical obligation to be 18 accurate and honest, and it's something that we take very 19 seriously. But I don't think that we're obliged to identify 20 arguments that the government might make in our opening brief. 21 I mean, when we go through the case law, of course, we have to 22 say the authority and then if we think there's contrary 23 authority out there we have to state that, but as I said to the 24 Court on the call, I kind of assumed it was coming and I was 25 going to respond accurately. So I didn't spend a lot of time SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00010057

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Case 1:20-cr-00338-PAE Document 161 Filed 02/24/22 Page 88 of 130 A-5774 317 C2GFDAU3 Brune - recross 1 numbers? 2 A. The thing has something that said fraud alert and it 3 indicates that there were two Social Security numbers, and so, 4 of course I'm just testifying about what I would have thought, 5 but I thought that would be consistent with what I thought I 6 knew, that there were two people floating around with the same 7 name. 8 MR. SCHECTMAN: Thank you. 9 THE COURT: Anything further, Ms. Davis? 10 MS. DAVIS: No, your Honor. 11 THE COURT: Ms. Brune, I have a question for you. 12 Would your firm have disclosed the information in your firm's 13 July 21 letter and the investigation into Juror No. 1 if the 14 Court had not inquired or the government failed to raise the 15 waiver issue? 16 THE WITNESS: I don't think we would have, your Honor. 17 And as I think about it, we have an ethical obligation to be 18 accurate and honest, and it's something that we take very 19 seriously. But I don't think that we're obliged to identify 20 arguments that the government might make in our opening brief. 21 I mean, when we go through the case law, of course, we have to 22 say the authority and then if we think there's contrary 23 authority out there we have to state that, but as I said to the 24 Court on the call, I kind of assumed it was coming and I was 25 going to respond accurately. So I didn't spend a lot of time SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00009378
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C2GFDAU3 Brune - recross 317 1 numbers? 2 A. The thing has something that said fraud alert and it 3 indicates that there were two Social Security numbers, and so, 4 of course I'm just testifying about what I would have thought, 5 but I thought that would be consistent with what I thought I 6 knew, that there were two people floating around with the same 7 name. 8 MR. SCHECTMAN: Thank you. 9 THE COURT: Anything further, Ms. Davis? 10 MS. DAVIS: No, your Honor. 11 THE COURT: Ms. Brune, I have a question for you. 12 Would your firm have disclosed the information in your firm's 13 July 21 letter and the investigation into Juror No. 1 if the 14 Court had not inquired or the government failed to raise the 15 waiver issue? 16 THE WITNESS: I don't think we would have, your Honor. 17 And as I think about it, we have an ethical obligation to be 18 accurate and honest, and it's something that we take very 19 seriously. But I don't think that we're obliged to identify 20 arguments that the government might make in our opening brief. 21 I mean, when we go through the case law, of course, we have to 22 say the authority and then if we think there's contrary 23 authority out there we have to state that, but as I said to the 24 Court on the call, I kind of assumed it was coming and I was 25 going to respond accurately. So I didn't spend a lot of time SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00010057